
What About Wannsee?
Dear Answerman:
You will find my question combative, no doubt, but I'm curious, nevertheless:
At the Wannssee Conference, the Jews were specifically referred to
as "the enemy," and plans were undertaken to remove them to the east.
(Hm! China, maybe??) Anyway, here is my question: since Germany had
declared war on the U.S. just a few months previously, don't you think
the Nazis could have better spent their time planning just how to deal
with these (obviously RACIALLY INFERIOR) Americans, rather than planning
how to move Jews around? Had I been one of the Nazis, I would have been
pretty miffed at seeing a list which told me how many Jews lived in
Ireland (not yet - or would it ever be- occupied by us Nazis). I think
I would have rather fired off a missive to Der Fuhrer expressing my
deep concern that the Americans might do something really nasty in the
future like team up with England and burn our cities, whereas most (non-American)
Jews at the time were not well trained in aerial bombing tactics. What
do you think, Answer Man?
Unless you can clarify this a bit, you aren't going
to get past The Great AnswerMan's Pathetic Mail-Filter Flunky. Care
to rephrase whatever it is that you're after? His time is valuable,
whereas yours and mine is not.
Fawningly,
Iwhoalsoserve
Dear AnswerMan,
Tis, I, Dorothy the Meek, back again to seek some answers from the
Mighty Wizard of reViz, whomever he may be!
And my question is again, about Wannsee. This incident
is terribly hard to explain away other than by asserting that the minutes
from the meeting were faked, which to its credit, the Revisionist movement
hasn't done yet.
If the "Final Solution" was indeed only a plan to transfer
Jews to the east, then where exactly were they going to be transferred
to? The document never identifies a specific region. The sheer numbers
boggle the mind, as this document mentions not only Jews in occupied
territories, but in countries which never would be occupied.
And what is so "final" about emigration? What guarantee
was there that these people wouldn't some day cross over again to the
"Lebensraum" of the Germans?
I know the Answer Man probably won't answer my question,
but if Revisionists are really serious about who they are and what they're
doing, the Wannsee question must be addressed in detail.
Viragoone
AnswerMan
Replies:
Dear Dorothy,
AnswerMan! sincerely hopes that with your tone you are not expecting
him to get you back to Kansas. But, come to think of it, given your
impersonation of a gasbag in your earlier query, perhaps you wouldn't
need any help.
With regard to the Wannsee Conference of January 20,
1942, AnswerMan! has never had a problem accepting the authenticity
of the protocols of that conference. However, what exactly does the
document say?
There is nothing in that document about extermination,
gas chambers, or anything of the kind. So what's the big deal? It discusses
a program of deportation, in which all of the Jews of Europe are deported
from Western Europe, sent to transit ghettoes in Poland, and then sent
further to the East.
This plan in fact mirrors the documentary reality, which
anyone can check for themselves. Tens of thousands of Western Jews were
deported, frequently stopping at the transit ghettoes of Lodz and Warsaw,
and then, after being deloused in transit camps like Birkenau and Sobibor
were sent on to destinations further East: these might comprise ghettoes
in cities like Minsk, Kovno, Wilno, Lwow, or Riga, or it might involve
assignment to labor detachments behind the German lines.
Of course, these deportations involved loss of life
and it seems clear that in some instances the deportees were later shot
after arriving at these destinations "further East" -- that at least
is the import of parts of the incomplete documentary record.
However, this loss of life and these killings is not
consonant with a plan to physically exterminate all Jews nor does it
have anything to do with the alleged extermination camps in which three
million people were supposed to have been gassed and burned.
David Irving has been most successful in locating a
very important document, the so called "Schlegelberger Memorandum",
which makes it clear that, whatever was discussed at Wannsee concerning
the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question", Hitler had decided to postpone
the matter until the end of the war by the Spring of 1942 (see Irving's
website at http://www.fpp.co.uk for more details as well as a reproduction
of the Schlegelberger memo, the document is also discussed in his recent
"Nuremberg: The Last Battle".)
In addition, the purpose of the deportations, as well
as the ultimate fate of the Jewish deportees, can be seen in the following
order, utilized by both Samuel Crowell and Isaiah Trunk, stemming from
June, 1942:
In order to get initial control over the Jews,
regardless of whatever measures may be taken later, Jewish Councils
of Elders have been appointed which are responsible to the Security
Police and Security Service for the conduct of their fellow Jews
(Rassengenossen). Moreover, the registration and concentration of
the Jews in ghettos have been started.... With these measures, the
foundations for the Final Solution of the Jewish Problem -- planned
for a later time -- have been laid in the territory of Byelorussia
(Weissruthenien)
Incidentally, the document also supports the contention
that Hitler's suspension of the final process came in the early Spring,
and that the truly "Final Solution" would ultimately involve deportation
outside of Europe, of which concentration in the East was supposed to
have been an intermediate stage.
No one is going to pretend that these deportations and
concentrations were either just or benign: it seems clear to AnswerMan!
that hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, at least, perished in one
way or another. But this has nothing to do with extermination claims
or gas chambers, much less with a "plan" for "genocide." One could just
as easily say that, since millions of Germans died as a result of the
expulsion of 14 million Germans from Eastern Europe after the Potsdam
conference in 1945 that there must have been a plan to exterminate the
German people. Of course, using the logic of traditional Holocaust writers,
the fact that there is no written order to exterminate the German people
simply proves that such a plan existed.
Again, AnswerMan! does not question this document, but
that doesn't make the document automatically valid. Johannes Peter Ney
has written an excellent critique of the protocols, on the CODOH site,
which clearly suggest some falsification of at least the accompanying
documentation of the protocols.
One of the points that Ney makes is that, according
to the protocols, the Jewish people were to be gathered up and put to
work building roads in "big labor gangs." He expresses skepticism on
this point, because, while there is documentation that Jews were pressed
into all kinds of labor work, there is no indication that they were
used for road building. However, it is interesting to note that Howard
K. Smith, in his book, "Last Train to Berlin", published a scant seven
months after the conference, repeats exactly the same claim about road
building (p. 191). Hence we have the unusual situation where the protocols,
which were stamped as "Geheime Reichssache!" (Top Secret!), are not
corroborated by any known German government documents but are corroborated
by a propaganda book published in the United States a few months later.
AnswerMan! leaves it to you to figure that one out.
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